But Next Time: “Toward the Fire”

This week, we’re continuing our collaboration with the Rise-Home Stories Project to bring you the first episode of BUT NEXT TIME, a limited-run podcast that spotlights powerful stories of community-led disaster prevention and recovery, on Shareable’s The Response podcast.

As fires ravaged California’s world-famous wine country in 2017, a community radio station, emergency dispatcher, and tenant organizers helped the most vulnerable in their community survive and recover. Community organizers and hosts of the podcasts But Next Time, Chrishelle Palay and Rose Arrieta, bring us “Toward the Fire,” the first of four stories of hard-won lessons learned from people on the front lines of California’s wildfires and Texas’ storms as they work to answer the question, how can next time be different?

You can listen to “Towards the Fire” on The Response where ever you get your podcasts.

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Listen to Episode Two of But Next Time: From the Ashes.

If you would like to go deeper into UndocuFund’s response to the Tubs Fire after listening to “Toward the Fire”, we encourage you to listen to episode 3 of The Response from back in 2018 where we explore how, in the face of ICE raids, labor violations, a housing crisis, and climate-fueled wildfires, the broader community came together to stand in solidarity with the undocumented community.

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