Tha Hood Squad

From a chicken coop providing omelet breakfasts in underserved communities to a network of farms stretching from Oakland to East Palo Alto, to a night watch program aimed at keeping the police accountable and protecting marginalized communities from police violence, to providing grassroots disaster relief during the most recent storms in the Bay Area — Tha Hood Squad seems to do it all.

In this episode, we’ve brought on JT, Savage, and Nay from Tha Hood Squad, a mutual aid and police accountability organization based out of the Bay Area. Through their six principles of peace, love, harmony, balance, unity, and justice, the Hood Squad aims to shift the systematic oppression which has targeted the disenfranchised communities of the world.

We discuss their origins as a grassroots art and media collective, their expansion into a very broad array of mutual aid work, including police patrols or “night shifts” and disaster relief, and how Tha Hood Squad reinvests into their community with farming and training for self-sufficiency, self-awareness, and communal responsibility.

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Below is a full transcript of “Mutual Aid and Police Accountability with Tha Hood Squad”

JT: [00:00:04] Right about the time when we finished the chicken coop and we did our first official omelet breakfast meal for the program, the pandemic hit. So it was kind of a weird feeling because I would say prior to that it was, like, people in the community — I felt I thought we were a little crazy. Like, why are they building these chicken coops? But I’ll say, like, when the pandemic hit, we felt like we was nowhere in the ark. We’re like, the ark’s done. And here’s the flood, we told you. But for us, it has to do a lot with not wanting to rely on the system to take care of us and wanting community care to be a way of having a sustainable, sure-fire way that people are having their needs met, especially in marginalized communities.

Tom Llewellyn: [00:01:13] Welcome back to The Response — a biweekly interview and audio documentary series where we explore how communities respond to disaster from hurricanes to wildfires to reactionary politics and more. I’m Tom Llewellyn. From a chicken coop providing omelet breakfasts to underserved communities, to a network of farms stretching from Oakland to East Palo Alto, to a night watch program aimed at keeping the police accountable and protecting marginalized communities from police violence, to providing grassroots disaster relief during the most recent storms in the Bay Area — Tha Hood Squad seems to do it all.

[00:01:47] In this episode of The Response we’ve brought on JT, Savage, and Nay from Tha Hood Squad — a mutual aid and police accountability organization based out of the Bay Area. Through their six principles of peace, love, harmony, balance, unity and justice, Tha Hood Squad aims to shift the systemic oppression which has targeted the disenfranchised communities of the world. We discuss their origins as a grassroots art and media collective, their expansion into a very broad array of mutual aid work, including police patrols or night shifts and disaster relief work, and how Tha Hood Squad reinvests into their community with farming and training for self-sufficiency, self-awareness and communal responsibility. Here’s Robert Raymond, who will be hosting today’s interview.

Robert Raymond: [00:02:41] Welcome to The Response. It’s great to have you all on. And I guess to start, I’m wondering if you all could introduce yourselves and maybe just talk a little bit about your role in the squad and yeah, just a bit about like how you came to do the work that you’re doing.

JT: [00:03:00] Okay. I’m JT. Stands for Justice4Tyranny. That’s a pseudonym that I got from years of doing art and doing art around social change and social justice work. I do a lot of social commentaries.

Savage: [00:03:19] I’m Savage. I’m the VP of Tha Hood Squad and co-founder. I’ve been doing this work for as long as I can remember.

Nay: [00:03:28] And then I’m Nay. I’ve been volunteering with Tha Hood Squad since last year, came into contact with them through some grassroots community work and just have stuck with them since then.

JT: [00:03:41] So for me, what got me started doing this with our art collective, as far as mutual aid goes, we had an elder that reached out to us about some RVs, folks that were being displaced in RVs in our community, and it just kind of launched a chain of events that led into us starting mutual aid. As an organization, what got us started was the murder of Mario Woods — this was about seven years ago in San Francisco. And having the need to want to create our own narrative around the things that are happening in the community versus having other people tell our stories and tell them incorrectly and oftentimes demonize us. So we started Tha Hood News, which was basically just neighborhood news, just trying to get the word out for things that were happening in our neighborhood that led to Tha Hood Squad. And shortly thereafter, Tha Hood Squad started doing mutual aid and a lot of outreach in the community.

Robert Raymond: [00:04:53] Awesome. Yeah, Thank you for that history. And yeah, so tell us a little bit more about Tha Hood squad, like where you work out of and just yeah, maybe highlight some of the work that you do and we can get more into the details of each program. But yeah, just maybe give us like a little bit of an orienting, like overview of what you all do.

JT: [00:05:14] Sure. So we still create media. We’re currently working on a documentary that is about some of the corrupt policing in the Bay Area that adversely affects our neighborhoods, our economy, like our ability to make money and ultimately being a tool of gentrification. We also have another documentary that we’ve been working on for some time about a Black motorcycle club. So we still do art in this way together. We also do mural work together. We’ve done Black Lives Matter Murals in the Streets a couple of times, most recently in East Palo Alto. And as far as the mutual aid, we do that a lot. We have a public health and safety program. We have a farm called Hood Squad Farms — it’s actually a farming network. And Sav, if you have anything to say about any of those, maybe about the farm, you talk about that a little bit.

Savage: [00:06:21] Well, the farm started basically because, you know, we realized that the community was in need and we had a couple of chickens and we were making omelets one day and we were passing it out to the RVs with the propane. And we realized the high demand for food was a lot of the time, you know, more impactful than the gas itself. So we realized that, you know, there was a need and it wasn’t just in our community, it was in communities all over the Bay. And, you know, we just took that as a call to action. And, you know, here we are.

JT: [00:06:57] Yeah, we started putting the farm together, like she said, around that time. At that time we were doing services for the RV community in East Palo Alto and we were giving them propane. There were some students from Stanford that secured some funding and they gave it to us to facilitate getting folks what they needed over there. So what we did was we kept giving them propane for their RVs. We kept fueling up their vehicles, registration on their vehicles, things like that. And during that time, we did a couple of meals for them. And we saw, as Sav pointed out, how impactful it was. And we thought, wow, we need to really make a bigger effort with, you know, food.

[00:07:47] And that led to us taking on a project, building a very large chicken coop, and also trying to facilitate other members to build chicken coops on their properties, basically to pool our harvest together and make omelets. So right about the time when we finished the chicken coop and we did our first official omelet breakfast meal for the program, the pandemic hit. So it was kind of a weird feeling because I would say prior to that it was like people in the community, I felt I thought we were a little crazy. Like, why are they building these chicken coops? But I’ll say, like, when the pandemic hit, we felt like we was nowhere in the ark. We’re like, The ark is dying and here’s the flood, we told you.  But for us, it has to do a lot with not wanting to rely on the system to take care of us and wanting community care to be a way of having a sustainable, sure-fire way that people are having their needs met. Especially in marginalized communities.

[00:09:11] I mean, you look at places not just in the Bay Area but around the country. You have people that have poisoned water and you know, nobody’s helping them out, you know, unless those people can help themselves, they’re stuck in a bad situation. And I would say the same is also true when it comes to disasters. You know, your community can be shut down and maybe not get relief for, you know, two or three weeks. It’s things that very easily happened. And I would say Black and Brown communities are usually the first that are forgotten about and the last to be served. So, I don’t know if I mentioned, but we also do disaster relief.

[00:09:53] So really, our farming program was the first kind of big step that we took towards that. And our meal program, the free omelet breakfast, being the first part of our mutual aid, going out there and doing the outreach in places like Oakland. We’re in Oakland all the time. I used to live in Oakland and the majority of our first members came out of Oakland, so we were pretty much an Oakland group that was based in East Palo Alto. So yeah, we would take our omelets, we would go to all the encampments.

[00:10:36] Before the ending of the pandemic, the encampment situation was huge. It was huge. We would literally bring over 1000 meals that we cook on a four-burner stove out into the street and feed people, and we were doing more for the people in the street than their cities were. And, you know, we’d feed farm workers, we’d go down to Salinas, Watsonville, all these areas, we’d feed unhoused farm workers, basically anybody that needed food. I keep saying, like in the Bay Area where we are out here in Northern California, everything is so high-priced that a lot of people are not living above the poverty line. They may have a house or an apartment or someplace to stay. It may be their whole family may be staying in someone’s home. And the money that they’re making is going straight to rent and keeping this shelter over their head. And they don’t have money for food. So it’s not just unhoused folks that we feed. It’s anybody that’s hungry, you know, anybody in these streets that’s hungry.

Savage: [00:11:45] With the ‘anybody who is hungry’ — you would be surprised, like going into a community, you know, to go feed them. You would be surprised how many people who you wouldn’t turn a blind eye to or you wouldn’t necessarily think are in need. You would be surprised how many people are actually, you know, in need. Like I know when we go through my community, familiar faces even will take the food because, you know, everybody could use a free meal.

JT: [00:12:11] Yeah, absolutely. And the meals going into everyone’s neighborhood, we were able to identify other things that folks needed. So our mutual aid really expanded far beyond just meals. Like currently we pass out sleeping bags, tents, we do drives, we go to encampments and ask people, what do you need? Like, what do you need out here? Really, just trying to give some radical care to the community that for us don’t even really feel radical.

Robert Raymond: [00:12:42] Yeah, no, I really appreciate that point. Yeah, about the radical. Like, it’s not really radical. I really appreciate that point.

JT: [00:12:50] Yes. Yeah, it’s not. It’s not. It’s normal. It’s regular, you know, but it’s not normalized because of capitalism and the way that people really put profit over everything else. We do a lot of police accountability. You know, I mentioned how we got started behind the energy from Mario Woods’s murder and police accountability is a huge part of what we do, especially for public health and safety. Because it is counterproductive for law enforcement to also be in the business of public health and safety, because literally enforcing laws with firearms creates a public safety hazard. You have people that literally carry around guns because police do. You have people that are in so much fear of this police state that they keep themselves armed. And that’s across all demographics except for the very wealthy. You know, the very wealthy, the police are their militia or whatever.

[00:14:05] But this all comes from capitalism. This all comes from folks that value profit over lives, profit over care. It’s like the nature of the beast. So it’s always interesting to me when we have this perception as a society, and clearly not all of us in society are fooled enough to buy into that perception, but it’s a widespread public perception. It’s promoted on television, radio, you know, movies about the police narrative and the police being those that serve and protect and look out for everyone in the community. And it’s just not what the reality is. It’s just not.

[00:14:52] You just recently had a Black man in Los Angeles that was flagging down the police for a car accident. And then, you know, half an hour later, they kill him. They tased him to death. And it’s just it happens all too often. So while we’re out distributing care for the community, we’re also holding police accountable. Policing the police. We see a situation occurring. We stop, we monitor it. If they’re engaging with somebody, we hop out, we ask the person, ‘Hey, man, are you okay? Is everything all right?’ We’ll ask the cops, ‘Hey, what’s going on?’ Because we want to know what they’re going to say is going on. Sometimes you can find out a lot about situations just from them not wanting to say what’s going on, them I’m giving you some, you know, where to answer, or them literally trying to tell you about criminalizing somebody. And if the person says to us, ‘I’m good,’ I’ll say, ‘Okay, well, do you want me to record it? Or you know, are you straight?’ If they’re good, I’m leaving. But most of the time they’re like, ‘Nah, stay here and record.’ And we’ve been able to help a lot of situations like that. But yeah, criminalizing somebody. And when I asked what was going on and I stayed there with my cameras and I kept, you know, engaging the police to try and get them to divulge some of the corrupt stuff that they were doing. And eventually they just they let the guy go. They just let him go. They didn’t want to be on camera no more.

[00:16:26] And we do most of our night work in Oakland because of the way that the underground economies are set up. So if you don’t know about the links between capitalism and underground economies, boy, capitalism is the reason why people are put in unsafe situations to get money because they’re trying to survive. So it’s important that we look out for people that are in unsafe situations. It’s back to the point of public health and safety. So a lot of what we do in public health and safety, we have two shifts. We have our day shift and our night shift. And on the night shift we do the same stuff, we feed people. You know, if it’s raining, we bring rain jackets, rain gear, tents, sleeping bags. You know what I’m saying? We pass those out to folks that need that.

[00:17:25] But also we go through neighborhoods and areas where underground economies are occurring. And we do that to offer assistance in any way that we can. We have some medical training being able to stop trauma bleeding if somebody is shot or stabbed — CPR, you know, things like that, things that will keep people alive in time to get them to a doctor. But we literally go through what they call the track or the blade or the “hoe stroll” — I don’t know what is the correct term that people outside of the street use, but it’s where the business of the sex industry, the seedy, underground sex industry, sex in the street takes place. And it’s very dangerous. Very, very, very, very dangerous. And a big part of that danger is the police. You know, it’s not just the people in the streets. It’s not just the shootings that occur, it’s also the legal and illegal activities of the police.

[00:18:33] We pass out condoms, we pass out safety kits. And one of the things that has happened to us numerous occasions is as we’re driving, doing, you know, the speed limit, having the cops blast the brightest light in the car to where you can’t even see the road. Coming from the opposite direction, trying to see who’s in that car, blasting the brightest light. All they see is dark faces in the car, blasting the brightest light in the car and almost go off the road. I’ve had all kinds of interactions with police out there being hostile to us, telling us they don’t like what we’re doing. For it’s like, ‘What are you doing?’ You tell them and it’s, ‘Oh, we don’t like what you’re doing.’ I’m like, I don’t care. It’s not illegal. And we’re going to keep helping people in these streets.

[00:19:19] And I always point out the fact that, you know, we’ve rescued a 12-year-old girl from being sex trafficked. We’ve extracted a young woman in her twenties who was being domestically abused, domestic violence situation and human trafficking at the same time. This is like the work that we do in the night. And if you recall, as far as what the police do at night, besides shining bright spotlights in people’s cars as the vehicles are moving, they were also engaged in a huge child sex trafficking ring at night where officers were passing around this minor. You know, it was all in the newspapers and all on the news around 2016 or sometime around then.

Tom Llewellyn: [00:20:08] Just a quick note, JT is referring to the 2016 rape scandal of Celeste Guap, who revealed to the world that the Oakland Police Department, along with several other Bay Area law enforcement agencies, had been raping and trafficking her since the time she was 16. Also in 2000, a group of rogue OPD officers were found to be terrorizing the residents of West Oakland, beating up drug dealers, taking their drugs and reselling them. They were also sexually assaulting and threatening sexual assault on women and framing people for crimes that they didn’t commit. This landed them in hot water with the federal government, and they’re still under direct federal oversight to this day.

JT: [00:20:46] So it’s just ironic when we have these cops that are maybe new on the force or whatever in Oakland and they’re like, ‘What are you doing?’ I’m like, dude, you are the problem. Don’t ask me what I’m doing. What are you doing? You’re the problem out here. Like you guys are the ones that are abusing Black and Brown women and, you know, children. So that whole situation is disgusting.

[00:21:11] And I would say in general, police officers have a lot of that response to us doing mutual aid and helping people. This, to me is like a systemic issue where police — they’re always worried about their safety when they’re in Black and Brown communities and the public is the target. It’s literally a war on the underclass. These police officers are military-trained. They’re trained by military contractors and they are taught to react to the people that they’re sworn to protect as the enemy, as their combatant. And these are the reasons why there’s a need for our art collective to step up and be in the streets in this way.

Nay: [00:21:59] And I do just want to step in, if I can. With all of this police accountability work that we do, de-escalation work, even with farming, even with supporting our community through all these other ways that Savage and JT have mentioned, handing out food, handing out track-packs on the night shifts, all of it comes out of necessity for us based on our lived experiences as Black and brown residents of these neighborhoods in the Bay Area. So that’s another reason, going back to that point earlier about radical care, why to us, this doesn’t even necessarily feel like radical care. It’s just us moving out of necessity, responding to community needs, responding based on the realities of our existences here in these neighborhoods where we find ourselves.

[00:22:52] And we are able to have such a wide reach of programs and activities that we do because it comes from, not only our experiences, but also listening directly to our community members. Tha Hood Squad is very recognizable and I would say well-loved and well-respected and also approachable amongst our community members. Thankfully, our neighbors feel comfortable reaching out to us, even when they don’t feel comfortable reaching out to these other entities such as the police, such as other emergency responders. They feel comfortable reaching out to us and voicing their needs to us. And we do respond accordingly.

[00:23:34] Even, like, I’m sure we’ll talk about it a little bit later, but even with like this recent flooding that happened, community members, even when they didn’t necessarily know who else to reach out to, they knew that they could call on Tha Hood Squad and that we would respond accordingly. So all of this care, it goes both ways as we’re putting in all this labor and work into our community, the community is also feeding back to us. There is no separation, us and community. The community is feeding back to us, keeping us informed of what’s going on, looking out for our safety as we’re putting in the work, supporting us financially and through other donations. So I did just want to highlight that community love and respect that exists across all of the programs that you hear us mentioning in this interview today.

JT: [00:24:24] Absolutely. And if I could jump on the tailcoat of what Nay was saying — during the recent floods that have been hitting us out here in the Bay Area in California, we had creeks that were flooding into people’s homes, apartment buildings, carports to where their cars were underwater. And we had a lot of messages coming to our accounts. ‘What’s going on? Please help.’ Can you please tell us you know what the emergency response is basically from the state? Like, what are they doing?

Robert Raymond: [00:25:01] Where are they?

JT: [00:25:02] Yeah, where are they? All of that. And so we tapped in with first responders and got the official response for what was happening. And what they were doing. Brought that back to the community. Let them know that, you know, we can get volunteers if they need volunteers or help. I myself also was there to help clear the creek. They had an excavator that was coming in and at first they were unaware if they had an operator. So I’m a trained — also a trained heavy equipment operator through the Local Union 3. And so basically was on standby while the equipment was being transported in. If they didn’t have an operator, I was there to operate that equipment. We helped people set up their sandbags — basically whatever folks needed during that time we were there.

[00:26:00] It’s important to say that we stay ready so we never got to get ready. We stay with survival kits in the car, flares, gas masks if there’s smoke, fire extinguishers, we put out car fires, all kinds of stuff in the streets and in our communities. Just being the first people to show up, the first people to see an accident were always in the street. So, yeah, those are the kinds of things that we do, at least in our public health and safety, you know, disaster program. Yeah.

Robert Raymond: [00:26:33] Thank you so much for that really rich helpful understanding like what you do and the context and the environment sort of in which you guys are doing all the work that you’re doing. There’s so many points that you hit where I’m just writing notes because I wanted to underscore some of the points here.

[00:26:50] First of all, I think it’s a really interesting sort of arc you mentioned, you know, Noah’s Ark, you were talking about like a metaphorical flood when you all started with your omelets and it sort of come full circle. Now you’re actually helping folks in literal floods and the community that you have sort of built and the trust that you’ve built in your own community. And the work that you’ve done has gone from, yeah, making breakfasts to so, so, so many other things.

[00:27:18] And I also want to really underscore and highlight this really important connection that you made with the work that you’re doing around police accountability and the connection between capitalism and policing. And I was lucky enough to speak with Cat Brooks of the Anti Police-Terror Project a little while ago, and one of the things that she also drew on that that you mentioned is this idea of the underground economy. And I just remember one of the quotes that she said was, ‘Folks gotta eat.’ And in a capitalist economy, you’re going to have people who are pushed out of that formal economy and that they’re driven to these underground, informal economies. And everybody is just trying to get by.

[00:28:03] And unfortunately, the police exist as sort of like you mention, you know, front-line soldiers and this class war of the capitalist class against the rest of us really. And certain communities are definitely disproportionately impacted by that. And I think that the work that you’re doing is really remarkable in going out in, you know, really in the tradition of the Black Panthers in Oakland and their Panther Patrols — I believe that’s what they were calling it back then. And it’s unfortunate that this work still has to be done, but it’s really important work. And thank you so much for sharing the specifics of what you all deal with on sort of a day-to-day, night-to-night basis doing that stuff.

[00:28:44] And yeah, you’ve touched on so many of the points that I was going to ask. So unless there’s anything else that you all want to talk about in terms of the specific work that you’re doing on the ground, if there’s anything else that you want to add about the recent storms, I’m also really interested in maybe zooming out a little bit and getting a sense of like what individuals, what organizations, sort of both historical and in the present have and are inspiring your work. And maybe also a little bit too, like explicitly on, you know, the idea and the importance of mutual aid and what else sort of what other frameworks are concepts sort of do you use — would you describe in your approach to, I guess, transforming your communities and your systems?

JT: [00:29:30] For me personally, I would say it’s the UNIA (Universal Negro Improvement Association) led by the Honorable Marcus Garvey. And also what has inspired me is the community care that takes place in other neighborhoods, in other countries in the diaspora. I’m part West Indian, and so when I go home to the Caribbean, what I have seen and grown up being a part of with, you know, my older family members, my older cousins, caring for their community, how they care for their community, how they put that community care first before you know, what the system says that they should or shouldn’t do has always inspired me, especially as a young man.

[00:30:24] Also, something that I found — actually a piece of literature that I found to inspire me was a book called Black Indians, and it was a book mostly about the Seminole Indians in Florida and their connection and marriage to Black culture. And from accepting Africans escaping enslavement into their tribe, marrying into their tribe and going on and fighting the US government that was engaged in a genocide. Things like that inspire me. Also, obviously, the Black Panthers inspire me and not just the historical version of the Black Panthers that everyone knows, but also what is told to us through our elders. You know, there’s this historical version of things. And then usually in Black cultures and some other cultures also, there’s this legacy of speaking down the information, passing down information from the elders. And yeah, I come from a community. Where all of that is important. A Pan-African school system in East Palo Alto that I was a part of. And so for me, that’s what my inspiration — a lot of my inspiration comes from.

Robert Raymond: [00:31:58] Speaking for myself as well. I, first of all, also greatly inspired, have the greatest reverence and respect for the original Black Panther movement. And then personally, I admire and align myself with any movements that are empowering Black and Brown communities from an approach that works across genders and across generations. I think it’s important that all of us are participating in the work within the community. All of us are benefiting from the work at the Hood Squad. We say that we are spiritual vigilantes and that spiritual aspect of it all is important for me as a foundation as well.

[00:32:45] I do have a belief that our people — in whatever neighborhood we find ourselves, in Black communities, Brown communities, Latinos, Indigenous people — I do believe that we are divinely connected and powerful, and that is the foundation for my belief that within our community we have everything we need. We have all of the skill sets, all of the resources. If we really came together and worked together, we have the talent, we have the ideas, we have everything we need amongst ourselves. So there really is no need to rely on or beg from these greater systems. And so The Hood Squad is very much in alignment with those beliefs that are foundational to me. And the way that they move is showing me how much anything really is possible when our communities just come together.

JT: [00:33:44] Can I say one more thing on that? Because she just pulled something out that I — I don’t know why I overlooked, but the spiritual aspect of what we do. I have been inspired with the ancestral traditions of the Yoruba and, you know, the Ifa tradition, which is also in the diaspora and the Caribbean, where I come from. And when we’re out there doing the work, there is very much a spiritual part to what we are doing, especially in the night. It’s very dangerous work and we are just acting as agents in this realm of the ancestors.

Robert Raymond: [00:34:28] All right. Well, I guess as we wrap up here, what can people do to help support you? If people want to get involved, where can they go and what can they do?

JT: [00:34:41] Excellent question. Volunteering is great, but to volunteer for us and the work we do requires that you train with us. There’s a lot of training, especially when we’re going out in the streets. I don’t allow for untrained people to come out with us because it’s just too dangerous. So volunteering is great If you’re willing to put in the time that it takes to train. And also resources — when we put out calls for unhoused folks that need tarps and tents and blankets and stuff like that, that’s amazing. If you’re monitoring our pages and you can respond and help, you know, and if you don’t have those resources, if you can share our post and our information with folks that do.

[00:35:30] And then a huge thing which is so overlooked oftentimes for a number of reasons is the understanding that although we do not support capitalism, we’re living in a capitalist country and it takes fuel for us to get to these places. And there’s a huge cost for us to, you know, supply our vehicles with things that we need to do our job. Medical gear, and there’s actually a large expense month to month for us to be in the streets. So we recently did a GoFundMe for our day and night operations. We priced things out and our operations are about $6,000 a month for us to be running.

[00:36:17] So there’s times when we can’t be out in the streets because we’re underfunded and we’re just like, damn, we wish we could help, but we don’t have any funding. So that’s another reality for what we do. Sometimes there’s messages that we can’t respond to because we don’t have the ability to, which is sad. So for those that do have those financial resources to contribute to what we’re doing. For those that don’t have those resources, but have a network full of resources, sharing the information and helping us fundraise — it’s a big issue.

Tom Llewellyn: [00:37:04] You’ve been listening to an interview with JT, Savage, and Nay of Tha Hood Squad. Check out their work and learn about upcoming events at thahoodsquad.com, on Instagram @thahoodsquad, and on Facebook and YouTube at thahoodnews.

[00:37:26] This episode of The Response was edited and hosted by Robert Raymond and was presented in executive produced by me, Tom Llewellyn. Additional communications and operations support were provided by Zanetta Jones and Alison Huff. The Response’s theme music was written by Cultivate Beats. Support for the show has been provided by the Shift Foundation, platform OS and tax-deductible donations from listeners like you. This is a project of shareable.net, an award-winning nonprofit media outlet, action network, and consultancy promoting people-powered solutions for the common good. Please rate and review The Response wherever you get your podcasts, it really goes a long way in helping us extend our reach. Make sure to follow us on Twitter and Instagram @responsepodcast. That’s it for today’s show. Until next time, take care of each other.

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